What does it mean to build something "in the spirit of Bitcoin"? Pablo & Gigi want to encourage you to apply for SEC-05.   Books & websites mentioned: Stackoverflow is dead by Gergely Orosz Sovereign Engineering by Gigi and Pablo In this dialogue: Gigi's vibeline & vibeline-ui Pubcastr aka castr.me  Pablo's thread about TENEX  Alex Gleason's MKStack  What is the essence of nostr?  What are nostr's values, and can LLMs extract them?  Agents and workflows living on nostr  Agent specialization and Roo code  What would Jesus do? What does it mean to build something "in the spirit of Bitcoin"?  Hierarchy of agents  Generalists vs specialists  Top-down constraints and bottom-up emergence  Wise architects VS efficient diff-merging LLMs  Where does the human fit in?  Distributed cognition: agents and humans Hiring agents via nostr  "If the human has to intervene, something is catastrophically wrong." Confidence levels of an agent's action  Giving agents money using mcp-money  Offering bounties to solve problems  Stackoverflow is dead Stock photography is dead  Real vs fake photography test Vibe-coding vs regular coding, and how it relates to the switch from analog to digital photography  What is economical, and what isn't?  Dialogue and Dia-Logos with LLMs  Specialization in a multi-agent world  Adding a small vibe-coding widget to every app (allowing users to customize stuff)  Multiplicity VS canonical design  Money is singular, language is not  Jack's original sin: the twitter Bootstrap theme The "other stuff" initiative What's missing from TENEX? Why isn't it fully working just yet?  Rebuilding everything every 3 weeks Voice vs text, sentiment analysis vs tone The power and informational density of silence In-person vs online communication Letting agents learn lessons "Where do you get your ideas from?" Anonymity vs pseudonyms vs government ID Agents need identity, money, and reputation "I own this dude." —Pablo Owning agents Vibe-coding lessons: don't look at the code, and in the best case don't even look at the IDE Human-agent communication: typing vs speaking Why some meetings couldn't have been an email Clearly defined problems vs undefined problem spaces Why TENEX will be in perpetual alpha What is Sovereign Engineering? Why should you sign up for it?  How come so many awesome things came out of it? Blossom, nsite, Zapstore, etc. Who should come, and who shouldn't? How did it start? What's the idea?  "Fix the money, fix the internet." "Ship stuff that lasts." Keep it pure. No monetization.  Focus on exploration and ideation  What's the structure?  6 weeks, 21 participants Same structure every week Monday Mornings: Orientation Tuesday Talks Wednesday Workshops Thursday: No Agenda Friday: Demo Day Weekend: Hikes SEC-05: YOLO Mode Empower users Optimize for self-sovereignty Bitcoin works Lightning works (Gigi's post)  Build the future you want to see  Madeira: you can pay in bitcoin almost everywhere  tl;dr: Listen to every single No Solutions conversation to get an idea of what Sovereign Engineering is 

"It's gonna be permissionless or hell." Gigi and gzuuus are vibing towards dystopia.   Books & articles mentioned: AI 2027 DVMs were a mistake Careless People by Sarah Wynn-Williams Takedown by Laila michelwait The Ultimate Resource by Julian L. Simon Harry Potter by J.K. Rowling Momo by Michael Ende   In this dialogue: Pablo's Roo Setup Tech Hype Cycles AI 2027 Prompt injection and other attacks Goose and DVMCP Cursor vs Roo Code Staying in control thanks to Amber and signing delegation  Is YOLO mode here to stay? What agents to trust? What MCP tools to trust? What code snippets to trust? Everyone will run into the issues of trust and micropayments  Nostr solves Web of Trust & micropayments natively Minimalistic & open usually wins DVMCP exists thanks to Totem Relays as Tamagochis Agents aren't nostr experts, at least not right now Fix a mistake once & it's fixed forever Giving long-term memory to LLMs RAG Databases signed by domain experts Human-agent hybrids & Chess Nostr beating heart Pluggable context & experts "You never need an API key for anything" Sats and social signaling Difficulty-adjusted PoW as a rare-limiting mechanism Certificate authorities and centralization No solutions to policing speech! OAuth and how it centralized Login with nostr Closed vs open-source models Tiny models vs large models The minions protocol (Stanford paper)  Generalist models vs specialized models  Local compute & encrypted queries  Blinded compute  "In the eyes of the state, agents aren't people"  Agents need identity and money; nostr provides both  "It's gonna be permissionless or hell"  We already have marketplaces for MCP stuff, code snippets, and other things Most great stuff came from marketplaces (browsers, games, etc)  Zapstore shows that this is already working  At scale, central control never works. There's plenty scams and viruses in the app stores.  Using nostr to archive your user-generated content  HAVEN, blossom, novia  The switcharoo from advertisements to training data  What is Truth?  What is Real?  "We're vibing into dystopia"  Who should be the arbiter of Truth?  First Amendment & why the Logos is sacred  Silicon Valley AI bros arrogantly dismiss wisdom and philosophy  Suicide rates & the meaning crisis Are LLMs symbiotic or parasitic?  The Amish got it right  Are we gonna make it?  Careless People by Sarah Wynn-Williams Takedown by Laila michelwait Harry Potter dementors & Momo's time thieves  Facebook & Google as non-human (superhuman) agents  Zapping as a conscious action Privacy and the internet Plausible deniability thanks to generative models Google glasses, glassholes, and Meta's Ray Ben's People crave realness Bitcoin is the realest money we ever had  Nostr allows for real and honest expression  How do we find out what's real?  Constraints, policing, and chilling effects  Jesus' plans for DVMCP  Hzrd's article on how DVMs are broken (DVMs were a mistake) Don't believe the hype DVMs pre-date MCP tools Data Vending Machines were supposed to be stupid: put coin in, get stuff out. Self-healing vibe-coding IP addresses as scarce assets Atomic swaps and the ASS protocol More marketplaces, less silos The intensity of #SovEng and the last 6 weeks If you can vibe-code everything, why build anything?  Time, the ultimate resource  What are the LLMs allowed to think?  Natural language interfaces are inherently dialogical  Sovereign Engineering is dialogical too   

"It isnt obvious that the world had to work this way. But somehow the universe smiles on encryption." hzrd149 & Gigi take a stroll along the shore of cryptographic identities. This dialogue explores how cryptographic signatures fundamentally shift power dynamics in social networks, moving control from servers to key holders. We discuss the concept of "setting data free" through cryptographic verification, the evolving role of relays in the ecosystem, and the challenges of building trust in decentralized systems. We examine the tension between convenience and decentralization, particularly around features like private data and data synchronization. What are the philosophical foundations of building truly decentralized social networks? And how can small architectural decisions have profound implications for user autonomy and data sovereignty? Movies mentioned: 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) Soylent Green (1973) Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977) Johnny Mnemonic (1995) The Matrix (1999) In this dialogue: Hzrd's past conversations: Bowls With Buds 316 & 361 Running into a water hose Little difference, big effect Signing data moves the power to the key holders Self-signing data sets the data free Relay specialization Victor's Amethyst relay guide Encryption and decryption is expensive - is it worth it?  The magic of nostr is that stuff follows you around  What should be shown? What should be hidden?  Don't lie to users. Never show outdated data.  Nostr is raw and immediate  How quickly you get used to things working  Legacy web always tries to sell you something  Lying, lag, frustration  How NoStrudel grew  NoStrudel notifications Data visualization and dashboards  Building in public and discussing in public  Should we remove DMs?  Nostr as a substrate for lookups  Using nostr to exchange Signal or SimpleX credentials  How private is a group chat?  Is a 500-people group chat ever private?  Pragmatism vs the engineering mindset  The beauty and simplicity of nostr  Anti-patterns in nostr  Community servers and private relays  Will vibe coding fix (some of the) things?  Small specialized components VS frameworks  Technology vs chairs (and cars, and tractors, and books)  The problem of being greedy  Competitive silos VS synergistic cooperation  Making things easy vs barriers of entry  Value4value for music and other artists  Adding code vs removing code  Pablo's Roo setup and DVMCP  Platform permission slips vs cryptographic identities  Micropayments vs Subscription Hell  PayPerQ  Setting our user-generated data free The GNU/Linux approach and how it beat Microsoft  Agents learning automatically thanks to snippets published on nostr Taxi drivers, GPS, and outsourcing understanding Wizards VS vibe coders Age differences, Siri, and Dragon Naturally Speaking LLMs as a human interface to call tools Natural language vs math and computer language Natural language has to be fuzzy, because the world is fuzzy Language and concepts as compression Hzrd watching The Matrix (1999) for the first time Soylent Green, 2001, Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind, Johnny Mnemonic Are there coincidences? Why are LLMs rising at the same time that cryptography identities are rising? "The universe smiles at encryption" The universe does not smile upon closed silos The cost of applying force from the outside Perfect copies, locality, and the concept of "the original"  Perfect memory would be a curse, not a blessing  Organic forgetting VS centralized forgetting  Forgetting and dying needs to be effortless  (it wasn't for IPFS, and they also launched a shitcoin)  Bitcoin makes is cheap to figure out what to dismiss  Would you like to have a 2nd brain?  Trust and running LLMs locally  No need for API keys Adjacent communities: local-first, makers and hackers, etc. Removing the character limit was a mistake Browsing mode vs reading mode The genius of tweets and threads Vibe-coding and rust-multiplatform Global solutions vs local solutions The long-term survivability of local-first All servers will eventually go away. Your private key won't. It's normal to pay your breakfast with sats now Nostr is also a normal thing now, at least for us Hzrd's bakery "Send Gigi a DM that says GM" - and it just works The user is still in control, thanks to Amber We are lacking in nostr signing solutions Alby's permission system as a step in the right direction We have to get better at explaining that stuff What we do, why we care, why we think it's important 

"With the shift towards this multi-agent collaboration and orchestration world, you need a neutral substrate that has money, identity, cryptography, and web-of-trust  baked in, to make everything work." Pablo & Gigi are getting high on glue nostr.   Books and articles mentioned: Saving beauty by Byung-Chul Han LLMs as a tool for thought by Amelia Wattenberger In this dialogue: vibeline & vibeline-ui LLMs as tools, and how to use them Vervaeke: AI thresholds & the path we must take Hallucinations and grounding in reality GPL, LLMs, and open-source licensing Pablo's multi-agent Roo setup Are we going to make programmers obsolete? "When it works it's amazing" Hiring & training agents Agents creating RAG databases of NIPs Different models and their context windows Generalists vs specialists "Write drunk, edit sober" DVMCP.fun Recklessness and destruction of vibe-coding  Sharing secrets with agents & LLMs  The "no API key" advantage of nostr What data to trust? And how does nostr help?  Identity, web of trust, and signing data  How to fight AI slop Marketplaces of code snippets  Restricting agents with expert knowledge  Trusted sources without a central repository  Zapstore as the prime example  "How do you fight off re-inventing GitHub?"  Using large context windows to help with refactoring  Code snippets for Olas, NDK, NIP-60, and more Using MCP as the base  Using nostr as the underlying substrate  Nostr as the glue & the discovery layer  Why is this important?  Why is this exciting?  "With the shift towards this multi-agent collaboration and orchestration world, you need a neutral substrate that has money/identity/cryptography and web-of-trust  baked in, to make everything work." How to single-shot nostr applications  "Go and create this app"  The agent has money, because of NIP-60/61 PayPerQ  Anthropic and the genius of mcp-tools  Agents zapping & giving SkyNet more money  Are we going to run the mints?  Are agents going to run the mints?  How can we best explain this to our bubble?  Let alone to people outside of our bubble?  Building pipelines of multiple agents  LLM chains & piped Unix tools  OpenAI vs Anthropic  Genius models without tools vs midwit models with tools  Re-thinking software development  LLMs allow you to tackle bigger problems  Increased speed is a paradigm shift  Generalists vs specialists, left brain vs right brain  Nostr as the home for specialists  fiatjaf publishing snippets (reluctantly)  fiatjaf's blossom implementation  Thinking with LLMs The tension of specialization VS generalization  How the publishing world changed Stupid faces on YouTube thumbnails  Gaming the algorithm  Will AI slop destroy the attention economy?  Recency bias & hiding publication dates  Undoing platform conditioning as a success metric  Craving realness in a fake attention world  The theater of the attention economy  What TikTok got "right"  Porn, FoodPorn, EarthPorn, etc.  Porn vs Beauty  Smoothness and awe  "Beauty is an angel that could kill you in an instant (but decides not to)." The success of Joe Rogan & long-form conversations  Smoothness fatigue & how our feeds numb us  Nostr & touching grass  How movement changes conversations  LangChain & DVMs  Central models vs marketplaces  Going from assembly to high-level to conceptual  Natural language VS programming languages  Pablo's code snippets  Writing documentation for LLMs Shared concepts, shared language, and forks  Vibe-forking open-source software  Spotting vibe-coded interfaces  Visualizing nostr data in a 3D world  Tweets, blog posts, and podcasts  Vibe-producing blog posts from conversations  Tweets are excellent for discovery  Adding context to tweets (long-form posts, podcasts, etc)  Removing the character limit was a mistake  "Everyone's attention span is rekt" "There is no meaning without friction"  "Nothing worth having ever comes easy"  Being okay with doing the hard thing Growth hacks & engagement bait TikTok, theater, and showing faces and emotions The 1% rule: 99% of internet users are Lurkers "We are socially malnourished" Web-of-trust and zaps bring realness The semantic web does NOT fix this LLMs might "You can not model the world perfectly" Hallucination as a requirement for creativity

The age of the idea guys has begun. Justin & Gigi vibe about Zig. Articles mentioned: LLMs as a tool for thought by Amelia Wattenberger Micropayments and Mental Transaction Costs by Nick Szabo How our interfaces have lost their senses by Amelia Wattenberger Talks mentioned: The Art of Bitcoin Rhetoric by Bitstein Books mentioned: Human Action by Ludwig von Mises Working in Public by Nadia Eghbal In this dialogue: nak  Files SyncThing (and how it BitTorrent Sync became Resilio Sync)  Convention over configuration  Changes & speciation  File systems as sources of truth  Vibe-coding shower thoughts  Inspiration and The Muse  Justin's LLM setup  Tony's setup (o1-pro as the architect)  Being okay with paying for LLMs  Anthropomorphising LLMs Dialog, rubber-duck debugging, and the process of thinking  Being nice and mean to LLMs Battlebots & Gladiators Hedging your bets by being nice to Skynet Pascal's Wager for AI Thinking models vs non-thinking faster models Sandwich-style LLM prompting, again (waterfall stuff, HLDD / LLDD)  Cursor rules & Paul's Prompt Buddy  Giving lots of context vs giving specific context  The benefit of LLMs figuring out obscure bugs in minutes (instead of days)  The phase change of fast iteration and vibe coding  Idea level vs coding level  High-level vs low-level languages  Gigi's "vibeline"  Peterson's Logos vs Vervaeke's Dia-Logos  Entering into a conversation with technology  Introducing MCPs into your workflow How does Claude think?  How does it create a rhyme? How does thinking work?  And how does it relate to dialogue? Gzuuus' DVMCP & using nostr as an AI substrate Language Server Protocols (LSPs) VAAS: Vibe-coding as a service Open models vs proprietary models What Cursor got right What ChatGPT got right  What Google got right Tight integration of tools & remaining in a flow state LLMs as conversational partners The cost of context switching  Conversational flow & how to stay in it  Prompts VS diary entries  Solving technical vs philosophical models  Buying GPUs & training your own models  Training LLMs to understand Zig  Preventing entryism by writing no documentation  Thin layers & alignment layers  Working in public & thinking in public  Building a therapist / diary / notes / idea / task system "The age of the idea guys has begun." Daemons and spirits  Monological VS dialogical thinking  Yes-men and disagreeable LLMs  Energy cost vs human cost  Paying by the meter vs paying a subscription  The equivalence of storage and compute  Thinking needs memory, and memory is about the future  Nostr+ecash as the perfect AI+human substrate  Real cost, real consequence, and Human Action  The cost of words & speaking  Costly signals and free markets  From shitcoin tokens to LLM tokens to ecash tokens  Being too close to the metal & not seeing the forest for the trees  Power users vs engineers  Participatory knowing and actually using the tools  Nostr as the germination ground for ecash  What is Sovereign Engineering?  LLVM and the other side of the bell-curve  How nostr gives you users, discovery, mircopayments, a backend, and many other things for free  Echo chambers & virality  Authenticity & Realness  Growing on the edges, catering to the fringe  You don't own your iPhone  GrapheneOS  WebRTC and other monolithic "open" standards  Optimizing for the wrong thing  Building a nostr phone & Gigi's dream flow  Using nostr to sync dotfile setups and other things  "There are no solutions, only trade-offs"  Cross-platform development  Native vs non-native implementations Vitor's point on what we mean by native  Does your custom UI framework work for blind people?  Ladybird browser & how to build a browser from scratch  TempleOS  Form follows function & 90's interfaces  Lamentations on the state of modern browsers  Complexity & the downfall of the Legacy Web  Nostr as the "new internet"  Talks by Ladybird developer Andreas Kling Will's attempt of building it from scratch with Notedeck & nostr-db Justin's attempt with rust-multiplatform  "If it doesn't have a rust implementation, you shouldn't use it." Native in terms of speed vs native in terms of UI/UX  Engineer the logic, vibe-code the UI  From Excalidraw to app in minutes  What can you one-shot?  What do you need to care about?  Pablo's NDK snippets  7GUIs and GUI benchmarks for LLMs "Now we're purpose-building tools to make it easier for LLMs"  "Certain tools really make your problems go away." Macros and meta-programming  Zig's comptime  UNIX tools and pipes  Simple tools & composability Nostr tools for iOS & sharing developer signing keys  Building 10 apps as one guy  Simplicity in a community context  Most people are on phones  Most people don't install PWAs  Zapstore & building our own distribution channels Web-of-trust and pushing builds quickly  Improving homebrew by 10x  (Micro)payments for package managers  Guix and bitcoin-core  Nix vs Guix  Reproducible builds & web-of-trust  Keet vs "calling an npub"  Getting into someone's notifications  Removing the character limit was a mistake  

The human spirit should remain in charge. Pablo & Gigi talk about the wind. In this dialogue: Wind More Wind Information Calories, and how to measure them Digital Wellbeing Rescue Time Teleology of Technology Platforms get users Hooked (book) Feeds are slot machines Movie Walls Tweetdeck and Notedeck IRC vs the modern feed 37Signals: Hey , lets just charge users! You wouldnt zap a car crash Catering to our highest self VS catering to our lowest self Devolution of YouTube 5-star ratings to thumb up/down to views Long videos vs shorts The internet had to monetize itself somehow (with attention ) Dont be evil and why Google had to remove it Questr : 2D exploration of nostr ONOSENDAI by Arkinox Freedom tech & Freedom from Tech DAUs of jumper cables Gossip and its choices The secret to life is to send it Flying water & flying bus stops RSS readers , Mailbrew , and daily digests Nostr is high signal and less addictive Calling nostr posts tweets and recordings being on tape Pivoting from nostr dialogues to a podcast about wind The unnecessary complexity of NIP-96 Blossom (and wind) Undoing URLs, APIs, and REST ISBNs and cryptographic identifiers SaaS and the DAU metric Highlighter Not caring where stuff is hosted When is an edited thing a new thing? Edits, the edit wars, and the case against edits NIP-60 and inconsistent balances Scroll to text fragment and best effort matching Proximity hashes & locality-sensitive hashing Helping your Uncle Jack of a horse Helping your uncle jack of a horse Can we fix it with WoT? Vertex & vibe-coding a proper search for nostr Linking to hashtags & search queries Advanced search and why its great Search scopes & web of trust The UNIX tools of nostr Pablos NDK snippets Meredith on the privacy nightmare of Agentic AI Blog-post-driven development ( Lightning Prisms , Highlighter ) Sandwich-style LLM prompting, Waterfall for LLMs ( HLDD / LLDD ) Speed itself is a feature MCP & DVMCP Monorepos and git submodules Olas & NDK Pablos RemindMe bot Breaking changes kinda suck Stories, shorts, TikTok, and OnlyFans LLM-generated sticker styles LLMs and creativity (and Gigis old email ) AI-generated art has no soul Nostr, zaps, and realness Does the source matter? Poker client in bitcoin v0.0.1 Quotes from Hitler and how additional context changes meaning Greek finance minister on crypto and bitcoin ( Technofeudalism , book) Is more context always good? Vervaekes AI argument What is meaningful? How do you extract meaning from information? How do you extract meaning from experience? What the hell is water Creativity, imagination, hallucination, and losing touch with reality Bitcoin is singularity insurance Will vibe coding make developers obsolete? Knowing what to build vs knowing how to build 10min block time & the physical limits of consensus Satoshis reasons articulated in his announcement post Why do anything? Why stack sats? Why have kids? All you need now is motivation Upcoming agents will actually do the thing Proliferation of writers: quantity VS quality Crisis of sameness & the problem of distribution Patronage, belle epoche, and bitcoin art Niches, and how the internet fractioned society Joes songs Hyper-personalized stories Shared stories & myths (Jonathan Pageau) Hyper-personalized apps VS shared apps Agency, free expression, and free speech Edgy content & twitch meta , aka skating the line of demonetization and deplatforming Using attention as a proxy currency Farming eyeballs and brain cycles Engagement as a success metric & engagement bait You wouldnt zap a car crash Attention economy is parasitic on humanity The importance of speech & money What should be done by a machine? What should be done by a human? The human spirit should remain in charge Our relationship with fiat money Active vs passive, agency vs serfdom

"What should the next iteration of the internet look like?"  In this dialogue: Paul and his awesome nostr t-shirt Are we all just nostalgic? Where did the optimism of computing and the information superhighway go? We went from interop to pay-to-unlock. Do we have to live in the digital gulags forever? Homecooked meals and homecooked apps Paper straws and the downfall of Western Civilization "You need to be okay with people getting rekt" If the car would be introduced today, it would be illegal Bravery and personal responsibility "nostr will only be what diehards will build it to be" Bad teleology is built into the current (non-nostr) app landscape  "You can get a lot of the upside without holding your own keys ...but you can't get ALL of the upside!" Expressiveness and free speech online  Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Assembly, and Financial Freedom in Cyberspace  Self-publishing vs platform publishing  Information calories. Can we count them?  Don't make me think!  Is not being forced to think part of the problem?  Mutiny & bitcoin UX that's too easy  Games and costly mistakes  The early days: software distribution via print magazines  Prompting allows you to define your own teleology  Vibe coding and Cursor  "The hard part is to figure out what you want."  "What should the next iteration of the internet look like?"  GenZ doesn't know shit about files and folders Why files are great  Gigi's SyncThing & Standard Notes setup  File-based apps like Smart AudioBook Player Reading apps like Pocket, Instapaper, and Readwise Reader Saving all the things & linking stuff together  Clips of podcasts and videos, e.g. Fountain A Commonplace Book to cyberspace Creating a "Family Bible" app If you want to maximize profits in the attention economy, you have to get users addicted (Zaps potentially fix this, as you wouldnt zap a car crash) Let computers do computer work, let humans be humans "The end is not being on the computer" Solo private / group private / public  Liberal vs Conservative sentiment in social environments  Whom to care about?  Web of trust & our understanding of it Forgiveness, Trust, and Repeat Games  Tit-for-tat and forgiving tit-for-tat Three strikes and you're out!  "Choose your gulag" is the alternative to nostr  7-generation thinking  2140 The Sovereign Individual is embedded in a social structure, always I, Pencil  Jungle vs Civilization  Fiat = because I said so (Fiat Lux - Let there be light) Do we need leaders in bitcoin?  Peterson Fallacy / God vs Bitcoin Jesus early followers were the Followers of The Way  Zaps are not payments  Zaps are not "tips"  Bitstein & Pierre: The Reorg  Vervaeke: Where do you go for wisdom? Rough consensus and Pieter Wuille "There is no such thing as a leaderless system"  Wisdom in cyberspace  Can we build wise tools?  Prompting the Bible, ChristGPT, and Bible Slop  Gell-Mann amnesia effect Vervaekes AI argument: The Coming Thresholds and The Path We Must Take Where do new ideas come from?  Sandwich prompting style (HLDD / LLDD) The Tale of John Henry  Silicon Sages Conscience and The Muse Hypermedia and HyperNote  Glassholes, Google Glasses, and wearable technology Prompting & Praying for An Internet Worth Having Books mentioned: The Bible I, Pencil by Leonard E. Read Don't make me think! by Steve Krug The Sovereign Individual by James Dale Davidson and William Rees-Mogg

I dont believe in Utopia anymore. Im too old for that. In this dialogue: Where is the Utopia that the internet promised? Neither nostalgia nor utopia Net Neutrality is a moral stance Where did the internet go wrong? Tech as a tool; is tech always neutral? Technology that increases agency VS tech that enslaves Competition vs Symbiosis Who will run the mints? Anyone can use it vs everyone can use it Centralizing vs. Monopolizing Bitcoin has an ethos baked in (You Shall Not Steal) Passive internet vs active internet Agency in cyberspace, and how to maximize it Blinded custodian vs regular custodian User data is a liability Obscura / Mullvad / Silent.Link as obvious early adopters- Run your own ISP - Tollgate Cryptography is Not Enough Bitcoin is Time Time requires heat Zero-knowledge service providers Electronic Cash vs Digital Cash (CBDCs) Credit requires KYC, KYC implies outside enforcement Writings on Micropayments by Nick Szabo- eCash fixes 402, obviously Who Owns the Future? You are the product vs Subscription Hell Hello old friend!!! Cathedral vs Bazaar Why paywalls suck Information wants to be free Markets become absurd as supply approaches infinity. eCash + AI = match made in heaven #LearnToCode vs #LearnToPrompt Scarcity in cyberspace: compute, storage, networking Zero-Knowledge compute & zero-knowledge proofs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-knowledge_proof https://github.com/AbdelStark/cashu-zk-engine Cairo: https://github.com/starkware-libs/cairo MCP https://github.com/AbdelStark/bitcoin-mcp MCP DVM: https://github.com/r0d8lsh0p/n8n-AI-agent-DVM-MCP-client DVMCP: https://mcp.so/server/dvmcp Olas & Nutzaps (NIP-60, NIP-61) Bitcoin is not only the internet of money, but it is the money of the internet Re-building the internet archive on top of nostr- Bitrot & 404 Resurrection markets & marketplace for hashes via Blossom Hugs 🫂 Links & References: Nostr Protocol Repository: https://github.com/nostr-protocol  Cashu (e-cash): https://github.com/cashubtc  NIP-60 (Cashu Wallets): https://nips.nostr.com/60  NIP-61 (Nutzaps): https://nips.nostr.com/61 The Cathedral And The Bazaar by Eric S. Raymond Who Owns the Future? by Jaron Lanier

Youll get all that for free if you build it right In this dialogue: 01: Start Ugly 02: There is No Global Concept of ownership & Read, Write, Own Shamir Secret Sharing and Timelocks No amount of violence will ever solve a math problem. You cant prove deletion of a key (or anything, really); best you can do is burn bitcoin Data is information, which behaves like an idea (not like an apple) If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. – https://dergigi.com/threads/memes-vs-the-world  Why the Pubky architecture isnt great Cashu  Nutzaps: NIP-60 / NIP-61 How nutzaps fix fake zaps on zaplife.lol Ecash fixes HTTP 402 [Bitcoin [and nostr]] take advantage of the nature of information being easy to spread but hard to stifle. –Satoshi Nakamoto Discovery with NIP-89 #RunDVM with NIP-90 Why micropayments cant work on credit rails, and how bitcoin is the rediscovery of money. Putting payments into blossom Money is essen­tially a tool to keep track of who owes what to whom. Broadly speaking, every­thing we have used as money up to now falls into two categories: physical artifacts and infor­ma­tional lists. Or, to use more common parlance: tokens and ledgers. maximum utility in the world of Bitcoin entails the adoption of maximum responsibility. Complexity of Lightning vs the simplicity of eCash Amber and Citrine How Pablo became the BIS 12 words in your head can literally save your life The in-between of custodial and non-custodial in a multi-mint world Nutzaps integrated in chachi.chat The intermediacy of nostr is magic In nostr youll get a lot for free IF YOU BUILD IT RIGHT Free Speech platforms cannot exist; if there is a deplatform button, the button will be pressed. Neither nostalgia nor utopia. Solutions that make stuff worse over time vs solutions that make stuff better over time. #asknostr on passkeys, and why we think theyll make things worse over time. Authentication vs identity: identification asks, authentication proves You are not your name and photo; identity is prismatic (m00ts talk on it at web summit 2011) Starbug from CCC pwning TouchID biometrics from a high-res photo (article) Key rotation and (American) HODL Social recovery  Multi-sig for nostr with FROSTR Links & References Nostr Protocol Repository: https://github.com/nostr-protocol  Cashu (e-cash): https://github.com/cashubtc  NIP-60 (Nutzaps): https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/60.md  NIP-89 (Service Discovery) & NIP-90 (DVMs) – upcoming proposals: https://nips.nostr.com/89 & https://nips.nostr.com/90   

We do not have the answers." In this dialogue: What is this No Solutions thing anyway? Why dialogue and distributed cognition is so important Why is nostr exiting for developers? Evolution, Life, and nostr What is the perfect nostr app, and why cant there be THE perfect nostr app? Why there is no global view in nostr Impossible problems vs. possible (but still hard) problems Blossom, blossom, and more blossom Zookos Triangle Freedom Tech Building Blocks NIP-60/61, NIP-89 Email vs ICQ Accepting constraints & moving forward Nostr has data integrity, but no data guarantees Bitcoin as an extreme RAID system Fault tolerance vs. efficiency Build the infrastructure, dont run it. eCash fixes 402 Everything in nostr can be one-click Theres infinite nsecs (and they are free!) The magic of the nostr view-only mode The Local-first movement How to monetize without putting yourself in the middle? RoboSats as an example of open-source monetization The YouTube like count is a lie Further links: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_cognition https://nips.nostr.com/60 https://nips.nostr.com/61 https://nips.nostr.com/89 https://github.com/hzrd149/blossom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zookos_triangle https://www.jrepodcast.com/guest/adam-curry/ https://localfirstweb.dev/ https://www.localfirstconf.com/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICQ https://appleinsider.com/articles/24/05/25/icq-1996-2024-the-first-universal-messenger-had-a-good-run-and-is-leaving-us-soon https://www.chatinum.com/articles/the-old-chat-apps-of-the-2000s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIkhgagvrjI https://njump.me/[email protected]

We have the chance of building the next iteration of the internet, and hopefully, not repeat the mistakes of the past." In this dialogue: Why starting ugly and shipping early is hard The ugliest thing that Pablo ever shipped Happiness is shipping Make it real first, you can make it pretty later Getting into the habit of shipping Highlighter and the hang-up of shipping something big How nostr allows you to have cash flow from the get-go #value4value for artists and devs What DHH & 37Signals got right People and projects mentioned: fiatjaf DHH SuperTestnet nostr.build Highlighter Primal ProtonMail Hey Further links: https://excellentjourney.net/2015/03/04/art-fear-the-ceramics-class-and-quantity-before-quality/ https://world.hey.com/dhh/that-shipping-feeling-b7c8c565 https://world.hey.com/dhh/i-was-wrong-we-need-crypto-587ccb03 https://sovereignengineering.io/ https://dergigi.com/2023/04/04/purple-text-orange-highlights/ https://highlighter.com/ https://njump.me/[email protected]

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