Carrie tells Ross about her journey to overcome a snake phobia, on her own, through the psychological principle of exposure. They discuss the nature of “specific phobia”, and the different ways one can manage or overcome fears. Follow along as Carrie works her way from Rikki-Tikki-Tavi to the LA Zoo, to holding a boa constrictor. Plus, did you ever think about how stressful a waiver is? Apparently Carrie has.We have social media: Twitter! Facebook!

Ross and Carrie explore more from the wonderfully enterprising Travis McHenry. A tarot card designer, Bigfoot hunter, demon summoner, angel contactee, priest, historian, actor, screenwriter, song composer, director, veteran, and micronationalist. Ross reads his adventures in paranormal investigation, while Carrie explores his work in print and on screen.We have social media: Twitter! Facebook!

Ross and Carrie attend a talk by Travis McHenry, a self-described atheist, ritual magician, tarot card creator, and Priest of Anubis. He tells the entire history of the occult, then teaches the attendees to contact angels (or demons, if preferred). Plus lessons on astrology, sigils, and the most popular occult book in the world. (Place your bets now.)We have social media: Twitter! Facebook!

Ross and Carrie learn the mysterious ways of the Holy Spirit Board, a tongue-in-cheek method to contact Jesus Christ in the same manner as an Ouija board. Then, they make Golly (a cat) wear a tinfoil hat of unknown origin. Will Golly stop liking boxes? Is there a heaven? Where is Jimmy Hoffa buried? Find out this and more. And long live Ella Poppy.We have social media: Twitter! Facebook!